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    • Yep. There were no illustrations at all on that site before my chart went viral. Now there are, eerily familiar, with the eye colour one lifted direcly.

  • Thank you so much! I was just wondering why the Cinnamon and Fawn versions of everything are in grey and aren’t recognized by pedigree breeders. Is there a reason for this? Thanks.

    • I’m not sure what the reason is, it could be that the genetics of these were only understood too recently. But breed criteria are arbitrary and reflect a human decision rather than genetic. Some breeds only admit one coat colour, for instance, which doesn’t mean that these cats can never be born different, but then they are not considered proper examples of the breed.

  • So, in regards to messybeast, are you going to contact the person who runs that site? That does not sit well with me.

      • I’m so sorry that you were stolen from. Some people I think have a harder time realizing that “internet” does not equal “free.”

        • Say what you wish about me or whatever, but I’m not entirely sold on the plagiarism thing. Maybe they changed it, but the thing is, their lines aren’t the same, cat genetics don’t change from person to person so the colours do very little changing, so do the white patterns and so on. You also can’t argue that making a chart like this is strictly your thing because having that visual can help some people understand a bit better. Furthermore, it is simpler to put charts like that on your own page rather than, say, put links to another page simply because someone else already made a chart. That’s, to me, like saying that just because someone else already wrote an article about a fact, you’re plagiarizing if you write your own and put it on your own site rather than linking it or using the other one and crediting. But that’s just my viewpoint. Also, the charts on messybeast do expand a bit on things that you simply didn’t see necessary to put in yours, meaning that that in particular is technically more unique to messybeast, just saying. I just don’t see any reason to hate messybeast for having similar charts for colours and patterns

          • It’s very simple: given their images are copied from and in places directly lifted from my chart, I have to put up a warning so people are aware it’s not the other way around. The information is not new or copyrighted, but my organization of it and graphics are. That’s why this chart is the first of its kind, the world bestseller on the topic, and being picked up by scientific publications, while messybeast is just someone who put the contents of a published book online (by their own admission), and didn’t know how to make images for it until they found my own to copy. If they had asked permission to post my entire chart on their site, I would have given it, but they didn’t. You can have your viewpoint, only it’s holding on to the wrong end of the stick.

  • Hi! Thanks for making this. This really helped me draw realistic cats. I’m a little confused on the eye color thing–cats with all white fur can obviously have blue eyes, but you also said whitespotting can make blue eyes possible. Exactly how much whitespotting is required for a cat to possible have blue eyes?

    • It’s not the amount that matters, but the location. You can think of whitespotting like a splash of bleach that turns fur white and eyes blue if there is contact. Whitespotting over one eye will cause it to be blue, and if it covers or is very near both eyes, they will both be blue. In fact, when a cat has all white fur and blue eyes, that means it has full-body whitespotting.

  • Hi! Great info! How did you learn all of this? I would love to learn more about cat coat genetics but I don’t know much & don’t understand all the genetic jargon. Are there any books, websites, etc out there in layman’s terms?? lol Thanks!!

    • A lot of research on and offline. I was focusing on the colours and terminology, though, not the genetics, so although genetics do come into it, I didn’t have to research that in detail.

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